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OPINION: Do older Bachurim deserve a kollel check?

Jun 27, 2022 525 0 8

Dear editor,

I’m a 29-year-old single guy learning in BMG full-time. I just wanted to share some thoughts I’ve had for a while now and especially since BMG’s Adirei Hatorah event.

I believe the message conveyed at the event is that kavod hatorah and those that represent it are paramount. That we should respect, cherish and honor those that sit and learn all day and not allow them to live in a way that our baalebatim wouldn’t dream of living. If I got that message right (and I’m pretty sure I did), I’m not sure how older bochurim got left out of the picture. Do they not sit and learn the same way yungeleit do? I’d be pretty confident saying that they learn more than yungeleit do. Do they not have financial struggles? Of course, they do. Friends my age don’t own a car, because their parents can’t afford an extra one for them.

Is it kavod hatorah for a 30-year-old guy to wait at the hitching spot to get a ride home for shabbos? Or for him to have to ask his younger married sibling to pick him up from yeshiva on erev shabbos so he can stay by him for Shabbos? When was the last time a yungerman had to do that?

Is it kavod hatorah for him not to be able to buy himself supper one night a week when he does not wish to eat what the yeshiva happens to be serving that night? To not be able to buy a piece of clothing without asking his parents?

I know of a fellow older single who drives a school bus in the mornings to support himself and another who tutors for hours at night just to afford basics because his parents don’t support him.

I B”H have very supportive parents who pay for my car and other expenses, and I tutor by lunch and supper time to have some money of my own, and yet I constantly struggle with the thought of whether I should go out to work, just so I can live independently and not rely on my parents; so that I contribute financially at family events the same way my siblings (who are learning) do. I’m pretty confident saying that most older singles could use the money more than the yungeleit, who do have a source of income.

I’ve floated this thought to many (married!) people in recent days and gotten almost unanimous agreement.

I’m not suggesting that bochurim should receive the same amount that yungeleit do or that 22-year-olds should be getting kollel checks. But shouldn’t a 27-year-old guy sitting and learning despite his difficult and uncomfortable circumstances be receiving some sort of income? There comes a point when it’s not socially acceptable to be completely supported by your parents.

Assuming that the message of BMG’s event was authentic, which I’m sure it was, I’m not sure how leaving bochurim out at that point can be justified.

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8 Comments
  1. posted by
    Yid
    Jun 27, 2022 Reply

    Just to point out something else if a 30 year old goes to work they are looked down at as a working guy his shidduch prospects change but at the same time a married guy who sat in kollel till 30 is nothing wrong with going to work the system is sick in my opinion

    • posted by
      SammyR
      Jun 27, 2022 Reply

      May you soon be a married man BUT the pitch made was for the kavod of the families of the yugeleit who sacrifice in order to sit and learn. Not sure that applies to those who donโ€™t have families and the expenses to be considered the recipient of tzedakaโ€ฆ..food for thought

    • posted by
      Sara
      Jun 28, 2022 Reply

      The reason for that is because a married 30 year old has a family to support. A single guy doesnโ€™t and should take advantage of the years he has to learn without the weight of Parnassa on his shoulders! Sorry if yoh look down on learning.

  2. posted by
    Izzy
    Jun 27, 2022 Reply

    Hashem should help find the right zivug bekorov!
    I can understand how you feel but to say that a yungerman has a source of income which a bachur does not is a bit stretching it.
    A yungetman has a family to support even without the extras. A bachur has room and board & food in the yeshiva. Granted that some guys need to be able to go out and buy food sometimes but its not like there’s nothing in the yeshiva.
    What age would you consider the bachur one who needs support? 27? 25? 23?
    Doesn’t a mesivta boy also need something?
    If a bachurs parents are not taking care of their son just because he’s older then there a whole different problem. If its simply a case of parents that don’t have enough to take care of basic needs of their child then that has nothing to do with age.

  3. posted by
    Berel be
    Jun 27, 2022 Reply

    You are correct in your thought process. The Briskers give Chaluka (money) to bochorim. So does Dirshu and many other programs. The challenge is we need to change our mindset.

  4. posted by
    Daniel
    Jun 27, 2022 Reply

    Can’t agree more. I got married at 27 and can relate. I don’t know if a specific age for single guys should receive kollel checks, but at least on case by case basis for the guys who need it. Supporting older single guys to continue learning should be just as important as married guys.

    I have a lot of older friends that are shteiging, love to learn, but the only “work” they can do is tutor in their spare time, which they aren’t always cut out for.

  5. posted by
    Kardashion
    Jun 27, 2022 Reply

    No one asks u to wait around for ur dream shver

    • posted by
      Askonim and Co.
      Jun 27, 2022 Reply

      That’s not nice.

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